Describe the bug
The eidolon evolution Sticky (Pathfinder Player Companion: Champions of Corruption, p.25, 1 evolution point) has no effect. Its description states the eidolon "gains a +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to initiate or maintain a grapple", but selecting it changes no number on the character sheet.
The cause is in the data. The entry in
data/pathfinder/paizo/player_companion/champions_of_corruption/coc_abilities_companion.lst (line 15)
carries only DESC, COST and SOURCEPAGE — there is no BONUS token at all:
Sticky KEY:Evolution ~ Sticky CATEGORY:Special Ability TYPE:EvolutionChoice.Extraordinary DESC:The eidolon is especially sticky, ... +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to initiate or maintain a grapple. COST:1 SOURCEPAGE:p.25
So PCGen prints a description promising +4 and then applies nothing. By contrast the Grab ability
(data/pathfinder/paizo/roleplaying_game/core_essentials/ce_abilities_race.lst, line 1384) implements
its equivalent bonus correctly with BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4.
To Reproduce
- Load the Pathfinder RPG game mode with the Advanced Player's Guide and Champions of Corruption (Player Companion) sources.
- Create a Summoner and its eidolon, with at least 1 evolution point free.
- On the eidolon, note the CMB value in the Grapple column.
- Add the Sticky evolution (1 point).
- The Grapple CMB is unchanged. Sticky appears in the eidolon's special abilities with its description, but contributes nothing.
Expected behavior
Selecting Sticky should raise the eidolon's grapple CMB by 4.
Sticky's bonus is untyped, and it stacks with the +4 from Grab because the two are untyped bonuses from different sources.
Core Rulebook: "Bonuses without a type always stack, unless they are from the same source." Grab is a universal monster rule granting "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple"; Sticky is a separate evolution.
On my 7th-level summoner's eidolon (base CMB +11, with Grab and Sticky both taken) the grapple CMB reads +15 and should read +19.
Sources:
Screenshots
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Desktop (please complete the following information):
- OS: Windows 11 Pro (10.0.26200)
- Browser: n/a — desktop application
- Version: PCGen 6.09.08 RC1, built from master (also present on current master, b3b8b08). Java: Temurin OpenJDK 25.0.2+10
Character File
Combardo.zip
Additional context
A fix is proposed in PR #7698 — it adds BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4 to the Sticky entry, matching how the Grab ability and the Grab evolution's pincers rider already express the same thing.
PULL REQUEST
#7698
Title: Fix: eidolon Sticky evolution grants no grapple bonus
The Evolution ~ Sticky entry in coc_abilities_companion.lst carried only DESC, COST and SOURCEPAGE, with no BONUS token, so the +4 promised by its own description was never applied. An eidolon with both Grab and Sticky showed +15 to grapple (CMB +11 plus Grab's +4) instead of +19.
The two bonuses stack: Grab is a universal monster rule granting an untyped "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple", Sticky is a separate 1-point evolution from Champions of Corruption granting an untyped "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to initiate or maintain a grapple", and the Core Rulebook states that bonuses without a type always stack unless they come from the same source.
This adds BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4, matching how the Grab ability itself
(ce_abilities_race.lst) and the Grab evolution's pincers rider already express the same
bonus. CMB only, not CMD — Sticky helps initiating and maintaining a grapple, not resisting one.
Verified against a summoner's serpentine eidolon: grapple CMB goes from +15 to +19,
other maneuvers stay at +11 and CMD is unchanged at 25. datatest and inttest both pass.
Describe the bug
The eidolon evolution Sticky (Pathfinder Player Companion: Champions of Corruption, p.25, 1 evolution point) has no effect. Its description states the eidolon "gains a +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to initiate or maintain a grapple", but selecting it changes no number on the character sheet.
The cause is in the data. The entry in
data/pathfinder/paizo/player_companion/champions_of_corruption/coc_abilities_companion.lst(line 15)carries only
DESC,COSTandSOURCEPAGE— there is noBONUStoken at all:So PCGen prints a description promising +4 and then applies nothing. By contrast the
Grabability(
data/pathfinder/paizo/roleplaying_game/core_essentials/ce_abilities_race.lst, line 1384) implementsits equivalent bonus correctly with
BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4.To Reproduce
Expected behavior
Selecting Sticky should raise the eidolon's grapple CMB by 4.
Sticky's bonus is untyped, and it stacks with the +4 from Grab because the two are untyped bonuses from different sources.
Core Rulebook: "Bonuses without a type always stack, unless they are from the same source." Grab is a universal monster rule granting "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple"; Sticky is a separate evolution.
On my 7th-level summoner's eidolon (base CMB +11, with Grab and Sticky both taken) the grapple CMB reads +15 and should read +19.
Sources:
Screenshots
N/A
Desktop (please complete the following information):
Character File
Combardo.zip
Additional context
A fix is proposed in PR #7698 — it adds
BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4to the Sticky entry, matching how theGrabability and the Grab evolution's pincers rider already express the same thing.PULL REQUEST
#7698
Title: Fix: eidolon Sticky evolution grants no grapple bonus
The
Evolution ~ Stickyentry incoc_abilities_companion.lstcarried onlyDESC,COSTandSOURCEPAGE, with noBONUStoken, so the +4 promised by its own description was never applied. An eidolon with both Grab and Sticky showed +15 to grapple (CMB +11 plus Grab's +4) instead of +19.The two bonuses stack: Grab is a universal monster rule granting an untyped "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple", Sticky is a separate 1-point evolution from Champions of Corruption granting an untyped "+4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to initiate or maintain a grapple", and the Core Rulebook states that bonuses without a type always stack unless they come from the same source.
This adds
BONUS:VAR|CMB_Grapple|4, matching how theGrabability itself(
ce_abilities_race.lst) and the Grab evolution's pincers rider already express the samebonus. CMB only, not CMD — Sticky helps initiating and maintaining a grapple, not resisting one.
Verified against a summoner's serpentine eidolon: grapple CMB goes from +15 to +19,
other maneuvers stay at +11 and CMD is unchanged at 25.
datatestandinttestboth pass.